Catching the Next Wave

Aga and Łukasz Szóstek inspire leaders to reflect on the possibilities and challenges of 21st-century leadership through inspired conversations with amazing guests. They together discuss topics such as change, innovation, common sense, empowerment and more, each of them unique for one season of their podcast. Join them as they Catch The Next Wave.


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S10.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO. Down The Rabbit Hole.
2021-11-05 11:12:51

More than three years ago we jumped the rabbit hole of producing the Catching The Next Wave podcast. In this anniversary intro we share the kitchen view on how it all happens. We also introduce the theme of the 10th season - "Down the Rabbit Hole" and chat about the meaning of this statement for both of us. And, as usual, we unravel a few of the mamazing guests we lined up for you in this season.

More than three years ago we jumped the rabbit hole of producing the Catching The Next Wave podcast. In this anniversary intro we share the kitchen view on how it all happens. We also introduce the theme of the 10th season - "Down the Rabbit Hole" and chat about the meaning of this statement for both of us. And, as usual, we unravel a few of the mamazing guests we lined up for you in this season.

Bonus. Anthony Rocco & Pim Schachtschabel: The Sound of Curiosity
2021-09-22 17:00:00

Anthony Rocco and Pim Schachtschabel, our great guests from previous seasons, decided to put their forces together to develop an online course that aims to awake curiosity in people. Together with Łukasz, we got a preview of this course live that got us grateful, confused, and more. Check it out to see what condition your curiosity is in. LINKS The architecting curiosity program “ A curious mind ” by Brian Grazer

Anthony Rocco and Pim Schachtschabel, our great guests from previous seasons, decided to put their forces together to develop an online course that aims to awake curiosity in people. Together with Łukasz, we got a preview of this course live that got us grateful, confused, and more. Check it out to see what condition your curiosity is in.

LINKS

The architecting curiosity program

A curious mind” by Brian Grazer

S9.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO. Becoming The Person You Want to Be.
2021-06-01 15:55:00

As usual, our Season 9 guests at Catching The Next Wave podcast took us into directions we dared not to wander ourselves. We heard daring business and artistic stories, we discussed how to become more daring as a leader and as a person but above all we were taken for a roller-coaster ride to learn the amazing things they all undertook in their personal and professional lives. LINKS “ Designing Experiences ” by Rob Rossman and Mat Deuren  The EQ Method workshop by Brent Lamphier The College of Extraordinary Experiences Tim Ferriss podcast with Steven Pressfield

As usual, our Season 9 guests at Catching The Next Wave podcast took us into directions we dared not to wander ourselves. We heard daring business and artistic stories, we discussed how to become more daring as a leader and as a person but above all we were taken for a roller-coaster ride to learn the amazing things they all undertook in their personal and professional lives.

LINKS

Designing Experiences” by Rob Rossman and Mat Deuren 

The EQ Method workshop by Brent Lamphier

The College of Extraordinary Experiences

Tim Ferriss podcast with Steven Pressfield

S9.E9. Paul Bulencea. Staying Wild.
2021-06-01 15:50:00

What is the difference between transformative and experience design? Our guest, Paul Bulencea, compares it (after professor Martin Seligman) to the cosmetic versus curative treatment. Together we explore the transformative journey as a way to re-wild yourself, to reconnect with your true nature and your path. Using the example of the College of Extraordinary Experiences, Paul is a co-founder of, we define the difference between the safe and the brave space and chat about the importance of being brave on your way to personal discovery. LINKS “ The Experience Economy ” by Joe Pine and Jim Gilmore " Gamification in Tourism " by Paul Bulencea “ My octopus teacher ” on Netflix “ The hero with a thousand faces ” by Joseph Campbell

What is the difference between transformative and experience design? Our guest, Paul Bulencea, compares it (after professor Martin Seligman) to the cosmetic versus curative treatment. Together we explore the transformative journey as a way to re-wild yourself, to reconnect with your true nature and your path. Using the example of the College of Extraordinary Experiences, Paul is a co-founder of, we define the difference between the safe and the brave space and chat about the importance of being brave on your way to personal discovery.

LINKS

The Experience Economy” by Joe Pine and Jim Gilmore

"Gamification in Tourism" by Paul Bulencea

My octopus teacher” on Netflix

The hero with a thousand faces” by Joseph Campbell

S9.E8. Randa Taftaf. Hearing The Authentic Voices.
2021-06-01 15:45:00

Born in the US and relocated to Syria at the age of 14, our guest Randa Taftaf found a way to combine the two so different cultures. She experienced the start of the war in Syria and then moved back to the US to start a publishing house that aims to create books for Arabic learners that are engaging and true to the cultural heritage of the Arabic world. In this conversation, we explore with Randa how you can embrace diversity and live a humane experience. We also discuss the issues related to minority publishing - a challenge that is one of the steps to be addressed in our road to equality.  Randa asked us to add a disclaimer to this episode. She wrote: “This is just my story and not the story of other Syrians. So many Syrians have had a journey that was far worse than mine which is one of the reasons why I haven't been outspoken about my experience.” We deeply appreciate Randa’s openness to share her story with us. Thank you! LINKS Rummana Publishing   “ 4-hour workweek ” by Tim Ferriss

Born in the US and relocated to Syria at the age of 14, our guest Randa Taftaf found a way to combine the two so different cultures. She experienced the start of the war in Syria and then moved back to the US to start a publishing house that aims to create books for Arabic learners that are engaging and true to the cultural heritage of the Arabic world. In this conversation, we explore with Randa how you can embrace diversity and live a humane experience. We also discuss the issues related to minority publishing - a challenge that is one of the steps to be addressed in our road to equality. 

Randa asked us to add a disclaimer to this episode. She wrote: “This is just my story and not the story of other Syrians. So many Syrians have had a journey that was far worse than mine which is one of the reasons why I haven't been outspoken about my experience.” We deeply appreciate Randa’s openness to share her story with us. Thank you!

LINKS

Rummana Publishing 

4-hour workweek” by Tim Ferriss

S9.E7. Jericca Cleland. Listen Deeply.
2021-06-01 15:40:00

Our lives are interconnected with nature. Our art is too. With our returning guest, Jericca Cleland, an incredible filmmaker, we talk about the notion of meaningful entertainment and how it can redefine our relationship with the world. We dig into the reasoning of why we all are so wired to storytelling and what authentic storytelling is about. These are only a few themes we explore in this amazing conversation. LINKS “ My octopus teacher ” on Netflix

Our lives are interconnected with nature. Our art is too. With our returning guest, Jericca Cleland, an incredible filmmaker, we talk about the notion of meaningful entertainment and how it can redefine our relationship with the world. We dig into the reasoning of why we all are so wired to storytelling and what authentic storytelling is about. These are only a few themes we explore in this amazing conversation.

LINKS

My octopus teacher” on Netflix

S9.E6. Lukas Cabalka. Looking for Harmony Through Contrast.
2021-06-01 15:35:00

The cultures we originate from carry inspiration that never ends - in food, in dance, in singing, in writing, in symbols, you name it. With our guest, Lukas Cabalka - artistic director and founder of Creativiva, we talk about creating entertainment that’s memorable and meaningful. We explore the future of the entertainment world through mixing genres and coming out of the theaters and closed scenes back on the streets. We try to figure out where inspiration comes from and how cooking is a great expression of someone’s attitude towards art. LINKS “ Flavor matrix ” by James Briscione “ Ever-changing seasons ” by Joanne Baxter

The cultures we originate from carry inspiration that never ends - in food, in dance, in singing, in writing, in symbols, you name it. With our guest, Lukas Cabalka - artistic director and founder of Creativiva, we talk about creating entertainment that’s memorable and meaningful. We explore the future of the entertainment world through mixing genres and coming out of the theaters and closed scenes back on the streets. We try to figure out where inspiration comes from and how cooking is a great expression of someone’s attitude towards art.

LINKS

Flavor matrix” by James Briscione

Ever-changing seasons” by Joanne Baxter

S9.E5. Kasia Sperczyńska-Santi. Never Going After Easy.
2021-06-01 15:30:00

Can you imagine yourself standing in front of a 30 000 audience singing “I feel pretty”? Our guest, Kasia Santi-Sperczyńska doesn’t have to anymore. Nor does she have to be fearful of singing on the stages such as Carnegie Hall and Banquet Hall of Hotel Plaza in NYC. How did a tiny girl from a tiny Polish village make it happen? We dissect the notion of bravery being true to yourself and allowing your inner child to guide you. LINKS “ The Gifts of Imperfection ” by Brene Brown “ Daring Greatly ” by Brene Brown “ Untamed ” by Glennon Doyle “ The Path Made Clear ” by Oprah Winfrey “ A Return to Love ” by Marianne Williamson

Can you imagine yourself standing in front of a 30 000 audience singing “I feel pretty”? Our guest, Kasia Santi-Sperczyńska doesn’t have to anymore. Nor does she have to be fearful of singing on the stages such as Carnegie Hall and Banquet Hall of Hotel Plaza in NYC. How did a tiny girl from a tiny Polish village make it happen? We dissect the notion of bravery being true to yourself and allowing your inner child to guide you.

LINKS

The Gifts of Imperfection” by Brene Brown

Daring Greatly” by Brene Brown

Untamed” by Glennon Doyle

The Path Made Clear” by Oprah Winfrey

A Return to Love” by Marianne Williamson

S9. E4. Brent Lamphier. Show Up for Others.
2021-06-01 15:25:00

What is the posture that makes others follow you? Why are questions so crucial? What can you do to develop your emotional intelligence? What does sonder mean? How is vulnerability helping your leadership? These are only a few of all the questions we investigated with our guest, Brent Lamphier, a seasoned AltMBA coach and a creator of the EQmethod workshop, where you will practice skill-building, deep listening, and connection. LINKS The EQMethod workshop by Brent Lamphier “ The Dip ” by Seth Godin “ Delivering Happiness ” by Tony Hsieh

What is the posture that makes others follow you? Why are questions so crucial? What can you do to develop your emotional intelligence? What does sonder mean? How is vulnerability helping your leadership? These are only a few of all the questions we investigated with our guest, Brent Lamphier, a seasoned AltMBA coach and a creator of the EQmethod workshop, where you will practice skill-building, deep listening, and connection.

LINKS

The EQMethod workshop by Brent Lamphier

The Dip” by Seth Godin

Delivering Happiness” by Tony Hsieh

S9.E3. Phillip Collins. Work With What Is.
2021-06-01 15:20:00

Leadership is like yoga. You are never fully trained, there is always more to learn. So you go and exercise it every day. We unpack this daily exercise with our guest Phillip Collins, a Global Leadership Coach,  heading a team of internationally based coaches and facilitators at Action and Theory. We discuss how to embrace risk, minimize waste and create with what is - the three elements Phil applies both to his professional work and his cooking. And we dig into the need for conscious reflection as a way to progress with your path towards leadership. LINKS “ The inner game of tennis ” by W Timothy Gallwey “ The EQ Leader ” by Dr Stephen Stein “ The four disciplines of execution ” by Sean Covey “ Against Empathy ” by Paul Bloom “ The Imposter Phenomenon ” by P R Clance

Leadership is like yoga. You are never fully trained, there is always more to learn. So you go and exercise it every day. We unpack this daily exercise with our guest Phillip Collins, a Global Leadership Coach,  heading a team of internationally based coaches and facilitators at Action and Theory. We discuss how to embrace risk, minimize waste and create with what is - the three elements Phil applies both to his professional work and his cooking. And we dig into the need for conscious reflection as a way to progress with your path towards leadership.

LINKS

The inner game of tennis” by W Timothy Gallwey

The EQ Leader” by Dr Stephen Stein

The four disciplines of execution” by Sean Covey

Against Empathy” by Paul Bloom

The Imposter Phenomenon” by P R Clance

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