Catching the Next Wave

Aga and Łukasz Szóstek inspire leaders to reflect on the possibilities and challenges of 21st-century leadership through inspired conversations with amazing guests. They together discuss topics such as change, innovation, common sense, empowerment and more, each of them unique for one season of their podcast. Join them as they Catch The Next Wave.
S9.E2. Jacek Majewski & Mikołaj Molenda. Constant Exploration.
2021-06-01 15:15:00
In the drive to endlessly fit their curiosity and explore forever new possibilities, our guests Jacek Majewski and Mikołaj Molenda, the co-CEOs at tylko.com, did more daring things than you might imagine. They share some of these stories with us while sharing their perspective on the responsibility of businesses to change their practices to become more responsible and sustainable.
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“Quantum Gravity” by Carlo Rovelli
“The Mating Mind: How Sexual Choice Shaped the Evolution of Human Nature” by Geoffrey Miller
S9.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO. How Big Is Your Comfort Zone?
2021-05-27 16:00:00
The theme for Season 9 of the Catching The Next Wave podcast seems to have chosen itself. It is DARING and with it, we hope to explore the different facets of what daring means in the professional and private lives of our guests. We also want to see how you could become more daring with your endeavors as you decide to leave your comfort zone and explore the unknown.
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“The Umami Strategy: Stand out by mixing business with experience design” by Aga Szóstek
S8.E10. OUTRO. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. The Logic of Intuition.
2021-02-04 17:10:00
This is probably the first season in history that generated more questions than answers for us. It has turned out that intuition is a complex and multifaceted term, and that you can look at it from different perspectives: cognitive, cultural, professional, and more. One thing that stayed with us is that intuition is not something opposite to logic (on the contrary) and that it is worthwhile to become good friends with it as it helps us reach out to the depth of our inner wisdom.
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“How we learn” by Stanislas Dehaene
“The meaning of it all” by Richard Feynman
"7 and 1/2 lesson about the brain" by Lisa Feldman Barrett
"How emotions are made" by Lisa Feldman Barrett
Conversation with Jorgen Bang Jensen on CTNW
Conversation with Clara Otero-Perez on CTNW
Conversation with David Millen on CTNW
S8.E9. Carola Verschoor. What Is The Most Provocative Question to Ask?
2021-02-04 17:05:00
Is change good? What does growth mean? When do you need a revolution and when evolution is what you require? Why should you reach out to the edges of your comfort zone? Where lies the difference between possibility and opportunity? You can get immersed in these subjects and many more in our conversation with Carola Verschoor, the author of “Change ahead” and the founder and chief creative at Transformational Studio.
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“Finite and infinite game” by James Carse
“The Infinite Game” by Simon Sinek
“How Do You Know When Society Is About to Fall Apart?”
“Mau 24: 24 principles for the design practice” by Bruce Mau
The article referring to Tainter's work.
“Change ahead” Carola Verschoor
“Power versus force” by David Hawkings
S8.E8. Keren Tsuk. The Ability to Hold Tension.
2021-02-04 17:00:00
Why do 21st-century leaders need dialogue spaces? How important is daring to be vulnerable? What are the boundaries for? Is leadership a role or a state of mind? Where lies the difference between the being mode or doing mode? Is busy the new stupidity? Should we be egoless as leaders? These are just a few topics that we tackle with our guest, Keren Tsuk, a founder and the CEO of Wisdomtolead, an organizational consulting firm specializing in helping executives find their inner wisdom and maximize their leadership potential through mindfulness.
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“Busy in the new stupid” a short video featuring Bill Gates and Warren Buffet
“Finding the space to lead” by Janice Marturano
“Predictably Irrational” by Dan Ariely
“The upside of irrationality” by Dan Ariely
“Thinking fast and slow” by Daniel Kahneman
S8.E7. Bernt Meerbeek. Balancing Intuition With Data
2021-02-04 16:55:00
Is data and testing always the best path? Or is intuition sometimes helpful in making design decisions? We talk about it with Bernt Meerbeeek, the Product Owner for IoT solutions, and the R&D Manager for UX and Living Labs at Signify. We chat about personality in robotic vacuum cleaners, a cat that speaks human, and whether people are willing to give away their control to be emerged into the Internet of Things. We also talk about how being a researcher helps to be an intuitive manager for innovation teams.
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“Peripheral interaction” by Saskia Bakker
“Humankind: a hopeful history” by Rutger Bregman
S8.E6. Yuan Wang. Heart To Hand.
2021-02-04 16:50:00
How to embrace diversity in a meaningful way? What is the role of a leader in that process? Why are women leaving the workforce so frequently these days? What does it mean to cultivate belonging? Where does self-reflection come into the picture? These are a few topics we discuss with our guest, Yuan Wang, a leadership coach for creative professionals.
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Morning Pages weekly newsletter
The Chinese painting master: Chang Dai-Chien/张大千. Yuan wrote an article about him in her newsletter
The recommended book: Inward by Yung Pueblo.
Coaching: yuanwang.design
Chinese ink paintings by Yuan
A collection of Design Books by Women & People of Color
First conversation with April Mills on CTNW
Second conversation with April Mills on CTNW
“The artist’s way” by Julia Cameron
S8.E5. Katie Zazenski. There Is No One Right Answer.
2021-02-04 16:45:00
Is art individual or collaborative? Is it neutral or political? What does it mean to truly be in the world? How does empathy fit into it all? Why is it easier to listen to male than female intuition? These and many more topics we chat about with Kathryn Zazenski, a visual artist and a director of an independent artist space in Warsaw: Stroboskop.
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Katie’s website
Stroboskop space in Warsaw
“Murmurs of the present” an article by Amélie Laurence Fortin and Katie Zazenski
“John Armleder: About Nothing: Catalogue Raisonné” by Lionel Bovier, Beatrix Ruf, John Armleder
S8.E4. Ann Morgan. Your Degree of Lightness.
2021-02-04 16:40:00
How long should you wait before beginning to write your book? This and many other questions we discuss with the amazing writer Ann Morgan, the author of “The World Between Two Covers” and “Besides Myself”. We delve into the world of creative writing, inspiration, process, dedication, and post-publication blues. And we discover what intuition means for a writer.
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“The World Between Two Covers: Reading the Globe” by Ann Morgan
“Besides Myself” by Ann Morgan
“Crossing over” audiobook by Ann Morgan
“An African in Greenland” by By Kpomassie Tete-Michel and A. Alvarez
S8.E3. Gunnar de Jong. Going After The Harder Choice.
2021-02-04 16:35:00
Is there a profession called “genius”? What can we learn from Leonardo da Vinci about curiosity? How is theater evolving? What role do emotions play in collaboration? Are there better ways for life-long learning? These are the things we dive into with our amazing guest, Gunnar de Jong - an actor, facilitator, and entrepreneur.
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“The artist’s way” by Julia Cameron
“How to think like Leonardo da Vinci” by Michael Gelb
“The prophet” by Kahlil Gibran