Catching the Next Wave

Aga and Łukasz Szóstek inspire leaders to reflect on the possibilities and challenges of 21st-century leadership through inspired conversations with amazing guests. They together discuss topics such as change, innovation, common sense, empowerment and more, each of them unique for one season of their podcast. Join them as they Catch The Next Wave.
S6.E3. Jessica Mignone. The Courage To Be Different.
2020-05-14 16:40:28
If you are not different (and sometimes even disliked) you won’t be noticed. And it also means that most likely you don’t innovate. With Jessica Mignone, a Principal Product Designer at Intuit (and a former UX Designer at Google), we discuss innovation from the perspective of constant improvement, or, in other words, we say that: going back to the stuff we built and making it better - this is innovation. We note that people innovate their entire lives anyway, and they are not even aware of that. And we also talk about the importance of 20% projects as creative outlets for smart people.
LINKS
Ichiro Kishimi, Fumitake Koga, “The Courage To Be Disliked”
S6.S2. Joe Pine. If You Are Sure of Success, You Are Not Innovating.
2020-05-14 16:35:17
Innovation is only true innovation when it is put on the market and validated with customers. With our esteemed guest, Joe Pine, the author of (among many others) “The Experience Economy”, we investigate the innovation space for experience design. We dig into the value of long-term thinking and the importance of considering the employee experience next to staging the experiences for customers. We tap into a concept of regenerative management and into the importance of underpromising to create powerful word-of-mouth.
Please note that this episode was recorded before the outbreak of the coronavirus — some of the comments refer to the situation before the pandemic.
LINKS
Joseph Pine II, James Gilmore, “The Experience Economy”
James Gilmore, Joseph Pine II, “Authenticity”
J. Robert Rossman, Mathew D.Duerden, “Designing Experiences”
Roman Egger, Paul Bulencea, “Gamification in Tourism”
Benjamin Hunnicutt, “The Age of Experiences”
S6.E10.Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO. Staying Curious.
2020-05-12 16:30:39
Is there a universal definition of innovation? It seems there isn’t. But there are quite a few ingredients that seem universal such as purpose, long-term vision, diverse team, rebel spirit, trust, and protection of a boss who is willing to be patient. Once again our guests expand our worldview and make us rethink the concept we thought we had figured out. And what we conclude is this. If you want to be truly innovative you need to set your mind on a purpose that goes beyond your bottom line and stay curious to remain sensitive to the way the world changes around you.
LINKS
Stanislaw Lem, “Tales of Pirx the Pilot”
S6.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. The Multiple Facets of Innovation.
2020-05-05 17:45:04
Innovation — do we know what we talk about? Is it something business-related or perhaps it links to academia? It is about the insight or the outcome? And what does trivial mean in this context? Or maybe innovation is like love — everybody talks about it but nobody has seen it… We are setting out to discover that in Season 6.
LINKS
Bill Buxton’s short article about innovation.
S5.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek: OUTRO. The World of Magic
2020-01-14 17:45:32
When we started this season about magic, we had no clue where it could take us. Actually, we had little clue of what magic meant in the first place. With our guests of Season 5 we had the great pleasure to look at magic from the perspective of an artist, designer, teacher, leader, and magician. And you might be surprised how much of it can be applied to both our personal and professional lives. We hope you will enjoy it as much as we did.
S5.E9. Ferdinando Buscema: Magic and Wonder in the Age of Technology.
2020-01-14 17:40:01
Is there a place for “magic” today, besides the theatrical dimension and the entertainment industry? Yes, there is! In our conversation, Ferdinando Buscema—a professional "Magic Experience Designer”—takes us on the journey of wonder, kindness and luck. We explore about how magic relates to the world of business, and what modern leaders can learn from the Archetype of the Magician.
IMPORTANT LINKS
Ferdinando's professional website
Archetypes by Carl Jung
Ferdinando’s book (written together with "Wonder Injector" Mariano Tomatis) in Italian
“The Glass Bead Game” by Hermann Hesse
“Techgnosis” by Erik Davis
“The Hero Within” by Carol Pearson
The Archetype of the Magician, Diploma Thesis (C.G. Jung Institute, Zurich) by John Granrose
S5.E8. Malcolm Campbell: There Are More Than Two Options
2020-01-14 17:35:12
There are always more than two options. In the way we see the world. In the way we collaborate. And in the way in which we hope to impact culture. Malcolm Campbell, an executive director of R&D labs at Canon Medical Systems, talks about how spirituality and science can create magic of desired culture through the narratives that people share.
IMPORTANT LINKS
Malcolm's "Skirnir" web page with his LARP games, photographs and writing.
A discussion about Malcolm's talk on "Living Seidr".
Malcolm's talk "Transforming an Organisational Culture" at "Agile By Example 2019" Conference.
Recommended book: “Hostage at the table” by George Kohlrieser.
S5.E7. Ariel Orah & Rasmus Stride: The Art of Artpreneurship
2020-01-14 17:30:04
Artists today have no other way but learn to become entrepreneurs. In a conversation with Rasmus Stride and Ariel Orah we investigate the challenges artists face in order to do their art. We also dig into the topics of collaboration and praise embracing diversity as a path to become an inspirational leader.
IMPORTANT LINKS
Soy Division Berlin by Ariel
Empathy-based Artist Collective by Ariel
Day Dream by Rasmus
Brian Ino “Music for the airports”
S5.E6. Anthony Rocco: Balance Is Not a Static State
2020-01-14 17:25:06
Secret societies, immersive experiences - where is the magic in there? Together with Anthony Rocco - an immersive experience designer and one of the faces behind the Latitude Society in San Francisco, we unpack the magic of being together as a group that agree on certain rules and believe in a certain reality that leads to creation of a magic circle where new patterns of behavior can be formed.
IMPORTANT LINKS
Psychomagic: The Transformative Power of Shamanic Psychotherapy by Alejandro Jodorowsky
S5.S5. Pim Schachtschabel: Being at Awe With The World
2020-01-14 17:20:15
Magic is a part of us. Pim Schachtschabel, a bespoke experience architect of magic and founder of one of the world's best escape rooms shares his perspective on how magic is the way we see the world. How Magic can be a way of thinking and perceiving what is happening around us. He shares his insights on designing storylines in escape rooms and the experiential workshops he secretly co-creates.
IMPORTANT LINKS
Pim’s website
“Creative confidence” by David Kelly
“The Wayfinders: Why Ancient Wisdom Matters in the Modern World” by Wade Davis